>>> you have to know anything can happen at one of those town halls but they are calling the leadership into question for remaining silent when a support he claim the president should be tried for treason. here's how it all played out at the event in ohio yesterday.
>> that microphone right behind you.
>> we have a president right now that is operating outside the structure of our constitution. and i want to know -- i want to know. i want -- i do agree he should be tried for treason.
>> so romney ignored the comment. observers, of course, took note comparing his reaction to john mccain in 2008 when a supporter went after the president. take a listen.
>> i do not believe in -- i can't trust obama. i have read about him and he is not, he is a -- he is an arab . he is not --
>> no, ma'am.
>> no?
>> no, ma'am. he is a decent family man citizen that i just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about. he is not. thank you.
>> joining me now, conservative radio show host steve deace. gentlemen, thank you for joining me. steve i'll start with you. you're the conservative but you absolutely do not like mitt romney . you have gone after him time and time again. so this time around i guess it is a softball. what do you think of the way he handled it?
>> listening to those two clips, you remind me of yesteryear when i found someone i disdained more than mitt romney and miss name is mccain.
>> how do you -- go ahead.
>> i love this argument. i have fundamental disagreements with a decent person. the other side of the argument, we're all called racists, mysogynists, traitors, we get called every name in the book. but he says he's a decent guy i have some fundamental disagreements with. that whole -- the clims you just played are a great example of why republicans lose all the time. all the time.
>> you have to help me out. i can't see in your head right now and i don't know what you're talking about. you're telling me that it was not a stand-up way to handle this when senator mccain , this woman said that then candidate obama was arab . he is not. and calling her out on that left you with a bad taste in your mouth for john mccain ?
>> it is not that part. it is what he said next. i have to apologize for disagreeing with the american left. i'm sorry. and if i say really nice things about them, maybe like the other guy here, michael from the new york times, maybe they will say nice things about me. if i'm really nice about it if i say please forgive me that i might disagree. maybe e will be nice to me and all that does is leave men like john mccain and later this fall mitt romney to lose every time.
>> i have to wonder if it is the rabid dog theory. it seems for some people, maybe steve , some other conservatives, maybe even some on the far left . if you're not constantly throwing bloody red meat out there, they're not happy. what would possibly be the problem with how senator mccain handled that compared to mitt romney who then later clarified or tried to come out and say the president should not be tried for treason.
>> well, the interesting thing that i find with b this whole incident. you was at the rally for senator mccain four years ago when that happened. i remember that was late in the campaign. the intensity of the vitriol, the mud slinging that happened in 2008 . that happened in october of 2008 as everything was winding down. that intensity seems to be here already. here we are six months from the campaign and the kind of passion and intensity and anger and frustration. i talked to both of the leading political advisers for both the campaigns yesterday and they both expressed the kind of frustration in the kind of language that is already out there.
>> for fair not, let me play mr. romney 's response. he said the president should be tried for treason.
>> governor romney , do you think president obama should be tried for treason? like the person who asked you? no? is there a reason you didn't correct her or say that you would not?
>> i answered the question.
>> but you don't agree with her answer?
>> i don't correct all the questions that get asked. i obviously don't agree.
>> steve , your take on his answer there.
>> oh, gosh. i love this show. it is the only place in america where i might defend mitt romney . just a week ago he was being called racist from people in the audience. and i don't recall there was any similar outrage to that.
>>> are you referring to when he --
>> hang on. we have to tell people what you're about. you have to clarify. he was in new york at the fire station . we don't even know the individual. if you've ever been in new york city , people yell all kinds of crazy things at you and about you. so i think that is not a fair thing. we're in a town hall . he is face to face with this woman and an opportunity, yes, to answer her question but also when something is wrong, when it is not right, why not say it? he was faced with that same thing with sandra when he had an opportunity to come out and admonish rush limbaugh . you don't have to throw the guy under the bus as you all like to say but you can say as a man, as a husband, i have daughter-in-laws. what he is saying about sandra is absolutely deplorable. this is the opportunity here. not just for mitt romney . for any politician faced with having their john mccain home. whether you like john mccain or not. that was a big moment for him.
>> here's what i think it would be a big moment. if maybe we would ask the question, what is this current administration doing that has presented or has created people that have the sort of frustration and anxious that the people in the two clips that you just played are demonstrating. are they all insane? are they all crazy? maybe it is because regardless of whether we all approve of the way they're saying it maybe it is because we're seeing a reconstruction of the american system what used to be called right is now called wrong. what used to be called wrong is now called right. profit is criticized. where achievement is downgrade asked maybe people are feeling like, you know, the america that i grew up thinking we were, that's being betrayed. maybe we ought to ask what is going on in this country right now that leads people to come to these conclusions.
>> people don't know but we consider each other friends. michael, i hate to bring you in our personal conversation but you host a radio show , steve . if someone called in and said tamron hall is arab or she should be called for treason, you might agree the second part but what would you answer? you said no, she's been. so you can save that for someone else . you know the man should have stood up and said what was right and wrong.
>> i would say tamron hall is pleasantly misguided at times. that's what i would say.
>> but she's not arab . you would say the truth of the matter and not that there would be anything wrong with if i am but let me go to you, not to pinpoint so much on mitt romney but to your point, the concern that this kind of language, this kind of rhetoric in a town hall this early in the game, what are we going to see in october or leading up days before the election? especially with the polling showing the razor thin margin between these two men.
>> exactly. i think that is the question. these kinds of campaigns build over time , right? the kinds of frustrations. to steve 's point, there is something there in a segment of the population that feels the way it does about president obama and that is only going to get more intense as the campaign heats up. on the republican side , you know, they pointed out that david axelrod said in a conference call with reporters yesterday, referred to the people running the super baghdapacs. that kind of language is also out there. that the republicans would take issue with and said that's not appropriate language either. i think the question is, is there any way to kind of reign that back for the two campaigns? or is it inevitable that it keeps ratcheting up for the next six months.
>> i think some people don't want to rein it in. that's what they want. they want to see this red meat divisive language for whatever reason and it is usually because they think it will make they will a winner in the election. thank you, gentlemen. i greatly appreciate it. steve , my friend, if people call and ask things about me that are not true, you'd better say they're not. thank you.
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